THE
WHIMSICAL ICEBOX
Conducted by Justynn Tyme
JUSTYNN
TYME: What's your favorite breakfast?
D.
HARLAN WILSON: It depends on whether or not I’m in a health-conscious
mood. If I am, I like to eat an egg white omelette, a slice
of multigrain toast and a piece a fruit. If I’m not, I
like to eat a cheese omelette, a handful of bacon and biscuits
and gravy. I’m usually in a health-conscious mood. But
I’m making a concerted effort to be more unkind to my
body.
JT:
From your personal point of view, what is absurdism?
DHW:
Generally speaking, I think absurdism is the experience of applying
an excess of significance or purpose to something. What that
something is doesn’t really matter. It could be a sense
of selfhood, or a job, or a relationship, or a pineapple, or
a handful of bling-bling. Whatever. Fact is, everybody perceives
the world in their own unique way; the only perception of the
world anybody has is their own subjective perception. It’s
only natural that we place a certain amount of importance on
certain things in our lives. But in the grand scheme of things,
it doesn’t really matter what we think is important, because
everybody has their own ideas about what is important. Put simply,
absurdism is the experience of taking yourself too seriously.
JT:
What do you think are the main elements of absurdist literature?
DHW:
I think the main element is satire. The great historical absurdist
writers (Dostoevsky, Kafka, Beckett, Camus, Sartre, Gogol, Carroll,
Borges and so on) were all essentially making wisecracks about
social structures and relations. Some other elements include
nihilism, alienation, freakery, surrealism, paranoia, the death
of meaning and individuality, and emotional and narrative violence?in
other words, weird shit. Stuff that doesn’t happen in
the “real” world according to the laws of cause
and affect that bind us. A few of these things are basic modernist
and postmodernist tenets. Place them together in a satirical
context and you have yourself an absurdist narrative.
JT:
What was your childhood like?
DHW:
I had a good childhood. I was raised in an upper middle-class
family in Grand Rapids, Michigan, by two supportive, loving
parents. I’m still very close to them. I also have a sister,
Jain, and I have a close relationship with her. This surprises
a lot of people. My books The Kafka Effekt and Stranger on the
Loose each contain stories that feature wildly dysfunctional
families. I don’t blame people for assuming that I’m
the product of a turbulent upbringing. The only turbulence I
really experienced as a child was in my head. I had nightmares
all the time, and for no apparent reason. No reason I can figure
out, anyway. Nowadays I’m thankful for my nightmares,
though, past and present. They give me plenty of fodder for
my writing.
JT:
What was the defining experience that made you realize that
your were absurd?
DHW:
One day I discovered a hole where my navel used to be. I craned
my neck down and looked in the hole. There was an eyeball staring
back at me. It stared at me for about fifteen minutes without
moving a muscle. Then it winked at me. At that moment, I realized
that I was not inclined towards normativity. Nor was the world
I was living in. I was two years years old.
JT:
Does your absurdism spill over in to your everyday life? What
do you see?
DHW:
Unfortunately, no. I lead a fabulously boring life. I live in
Lansing, Michigan, a culturally dead city that I can’t
wait to leave in my dust. I’m currently working on my
Ph.D. dissertation while teaching literature and composition
courses at Michigan State University and a nearby community
college. Writing the dissertation and preparing for and teaching
courses occupies most of my time, and I spend much of my free
time writing fiction and promoting my books. There’s nothing
to do in Lansing except go out to bars and drink, so I don’t
mind working all the time, but I’m constantly looking
forward to moving. Right now I’m applying for jobs as
a fiction writing professor at colleges and universities all
over the country for the Fall of 2004. Hopefully, by next summer,
I’ll be packing my bags.
JT:
Who defines your absurdist views from the classics and modern
versions?
DHW:
From the classics, Kafka, of course, but also Gogol and Dostoevsky
(especially his Notes from the Underground). I used to love
Camus when I was younger, but now when I read and teach him,
I don’t find him very provocative. From the moderns, my
favorites are Donald Barthelme, Russell Edson and Steve Aylett.
I’m actually devoting a chapter of my dissertation to
Aylett’s neo-cyberpunk novels Slaughtermatic and Atom.
And a bundle of Barthelme’s ironic stories and Edson’s
carny prose poems have directly influenced many of my own stories.
JT:
As a writer, are you in favor of concealing personal beliefs
and/or enlightenments for a better society?
DHW:
Most of my writing doesn’t contain any kind of polemic
for a new and improved world. I’m not really interested
in that sort of thing. What interests me is representing the
world as it exists in distinctively imaginative ways. I suppose
some of my fiction does point to particular crises and shortcomings
in society, but only indirectly, for the most part. At its core,
my writing is quite passive, although I don’t think most
of my readers see it that way. But what I think is inconsequential.
What any author thinks about his work is inconsequential. Once
a story or novel is published and disseminated to the rest of
the world, it takes on a new life, a life projected on it by
the perceptions of others, all of whom are produced by different
experiences and have their own assumptions, judgements and ideologies.
In the end, all that matters is what readers elicit from a piece
of fiction. I can only hope that what they elicit brightens
or informs their lives in some way.
JT:
Why do you write?
DHW:
I’ve always had an overactive imagination, and writing
allows me to sort of purge my imagination; getting my thoughts
down on paper in the form of a narrative is a cathartic process.
I didn’t always believe this to be true, but lately I’ve
realized that I do need to write in order to maintain a certain
sense of emotional stability. More than that, though, I like
to entertain and educate people, including myself. I write in
order to stimulate a certain readership as much as I do to stimulate
me. Fiction is just a representation of reality, even if it’s
fiction like mine, which doesn’t always conform to the
norms of reality, and the process of conceiving and writing
fiction permits me to flesh out the dynamics and vicissitudes
of reality. I think it does the same for my readers.
JT:
How do you get in the frame of mind to write? Is it random or
spur of the moment?
DHW:
Rarely. Usually I write every morning for a few hours. These
days I devote most of my writing time to my dissertation, but
I always make time for my fiction, if only for fifteen minutes
or a half an hour a day.
JT:
What do you think of the present community of absurdists?
DHW:
They are a fine, talented group of people. Over the last few
years I’ve developed relationships with a number of absurdist
writers. Anybody interested in checking out some of their work
should refer to the Absurdism! website at www.absurdist.cc.
JT:
Anything or anyone you feel is underrated?
DHW:
I mentioned Russell Edson earlier. There’s somebody I
think deserves a lot more kudos. A great deal of intellectual
savvy lurks beneath the surfaces of his bizarre prose poems.
The problem is, most people can’t get past his bizzareness.
That’s a problem many absurdist writer’s face: trying
to reach a readership that is resistant to suspend its disbelief
and look beyond the closed-minded confines of reality.
JT:
You are an accomplished writer, possibly an icon. Is this where
you want to be? What do want to do either with your writing
or as an artist?
DHW:
Thanks for the compliment, Justynn! Right now I’m just
working on spreading the word about my stories and books. I’m
a relatively new writer and I still have a long way to go. My
professional utopia would be to teach literature and creative
writing part-time and to write full-time. And to get paid handsomely
for it, of course!
JT:
If given the opportunity to say whatever you want without limitations
of subject or length, what would you say?
DHW:
I’d probably just read a Philip K. Dick novel aloud. Then
I’d go to a bar and drink a dry vodka martini in silence.