PULP
BITS
Conducted by Lisa Evenson
PULP
BITS: You have strong postmodern themes in your writing –
paranoia, absence of conclusion, isolation. Do you see your
literature in this period?
D.
HARLAN WILSON: Certainly. Postmodernism is a complex term and
means different things to different people, but generally speaking,
I think my writing exhibits a number of postmodern features.
When I write, I don’t consciously deploy these features,
but I recognize them, especially when I’m revising my
fiction and try to view it from a more objective standpoint.
The schizophrenic nature of many of my stories seems to me to
be the most prominent earmark of postmodernity. By schizophrenic,
I mean my fragmentary style and the way in which I position
my characters in imploded universes where reality and fantasy
have collapsed.
PB:
Author’s intent is fascinating, though I draw separate,
personal conclusions from each story. What were your intentions
when writing “The Snore”?
DHW:
“The Snore” is actually a product of a “conversation”
I had with my sister Jain at a bar in Washington D.C. We often
write short stories together, one sentence at a time, usually
by word of mouth, but this night we did it by word of keyboard.
We were playing one of those TV trivia games. While we played,
we logged in to the chat room on our consoles and began trading
off sentences. We went on for a good half hour before throwing
in the towel. Later that night, I wrote down what we had written
as best as I could remember it. A week or so later I converted
what I had written down into a slightly different story. As
I was producing the conversion, I was thinking of two things:
Nikolai Gogol’s “The Nose” and the film The
Matrix. Gogol’s story is about this guy who accidentally
gets his nose lopped off, then spots his nose running around
town in an overcoat, functioning as an active member of society.
I like the idea of a body part (or bodily product, in the case
of “The Snore”) taking on a life of its own, and
so I appropriated it to my snore character. As for The Matrix,
I was simply playing on the absurdity of the gratuitous, spectacular
kung fu fight scenes in the film; by placing such an absurd
scene (the kung fu fight between the snore and the protagonist)
in an explicitly absurdist story, I wanted to call attention
to society’s absurd penchant for mindless entertainment.
PB:
Some authors write when they feel a muse, others use a consistent
routine or free-write. Can you explain what you do for inspiration,
generally speaking?
DHW:
I don’t do much. I don’t really get writer’s
block and I don’t need a great deal of motivation? I write
just about every day, even it’s only for a short time,
and I have a big backlog of ideas for stories and books. Time
is the issue for me. In addition to my fiction, I’m currently
writing my Ph.D. dissertation while teaching classes and promoting
my latest book, Stranger on the Loose. These days I devote most
of my time to my students and to researching and writing my
dissertation. But I always make room for my fiction. If I don’t
write creatively on a regular basis, I feel empty, sometimes
worthless. It’s strange. In a way, I establish my sense
of selfhood through my fiction, yet at the same time, I’m
not really anything like the characters I portray. I guess it
all boils down to the act of creating irreal worlds in which
people behave in ways that I find amusing and compelling?especially
considering that the circles I roam in don’t offer many
amusing, compelling people.
PB:
As I told you, a personal favorite is “The Sister.”
I can’t put a story down with this first line: ‘And
the moment I finished sewing up my little sister, a stranger
came along and kidnapped her.” Do you intentionally avoid
humanizing characters?
DHW:
Sometimes, yes. One of the reasons I do it, I think, is to try
and identify with that kind of person. I’m an emotional,
extroverted, touchy-feely guy. People who are unemotional, introverted
and detached interest me greatly; I can’t relate to them,
and I wonder what in their history produced that kind of closed-door
personality. You could say that my portrayal of dehumanized
characters in my fiction is partly an attempt to come to terms
with them. The main reason I dehumanize characters, though,
is to reflect the contemporary human condition as a production
of the postmodern universe. I’m a firm believer in the
notion that our hyperreal, image-addicted, infotainment-oriented,
technofetishistic society is increasingly dulling our senses
and turning us all into shadows of the television and computer
screens that have come to define our reality. In various ways,
I try to represent this dynamic in my fiction.
PB:
Irrealities can compare to both Darcey Steinke and Edgar Allen
Poe. Who were your major influences in literature, and in life?
DHW:
Kafka has had the greatest influence on me as a writer. It wasn’t
until I began reading him consistently that I found a voice
and a style of my own; his absurdist, dreamlike fables opened
up new worlds of potentiality to me. My first book, The Kafka
Effekt, is partly a tribute to him. But there are lots of other
writers that inspired me. Poe, Burroughs, Dick, Barthelme, Camus,
Gogol, Borges, Gibson, Dostoevsky, Mann, Edson—all of
these guys appeal to me and have informed my writing. More than
anything, I admire the unusual and innovative ways that each
of them represent the estranged, alienated subject.
PB:
When writing short stories as opposed to a novel, what do you
feel is the most important differential? Why?
DHW:
As a writer, I was a late bloomer, mainly because I was a frat
boy in college and more interested in partying than anything
else. I didn’t begin writing seriously until I was a graduate
student, around 25 years old, and I started out writing novels.
I wrote three in two years. None of them were up to snuff, in
my eyes, and I didn’t submit any of them for publication.
I just didn’t have the nack for writing narratives of
that length at that time. So I turned to the story form, and
I found myself in much better place. I was always very busy
with my studies and teaching, and I could write a story in one
or two sittings and be done with it, or at least be done with
a full draft (I’m a neurotic revisionist). The sense of
accomplishment I felt was great. With my novels, I didn’t
feel that sense, because the light at the end of the tunnel
was always so far away. Not to mention that, when I finally
got to that light, I realized that my novels were crummy. Additionally,
when you’re writing a novel, character and plot development
are key factors, and for me, keeping up with the dynamics of
my characters and plots was exhausting; if I took two days off
from writing, I would forget things and find myself spending
more time reading and revising what I had already written rather
than furthering the narratives. Not so with my stories. I usually
have two or three going at a time and I can leave one alone
for a while, come back to it and be right on track. This is
not to say that I don’t have an interest in writing another
novel. Once I get my Ph.D. and finish my next book, Pseudo-City,
a story-cycle about an imploded metropolis, I plan to begin
one.
PB:
You’re a professor of literature at Michigan State University.
As a mentor, what would you like to leave with your students?
Well,
I’m not technically a professor, not yet. I’ve been
working on my Ph.D. at MSU for four years now, and I’m
finally in the home stretch. Still, I’ve taught classes
there all the while, and for the most part, I’ve had a
good experience, pedagogically speaking. Being a graduate student
at MSU is another story. At any rate, what I hope to teach my
students, above all, is how to harness their imaginative powers
and apply them to their critical and creative thinking and writing
skills. I’m under no pretenses that, in the grand scheme
of things, writing of any kind is becoming a lost art: in this
Age of the Image, people don’t read, they watch screens,
and they let the screens they watch do their thinking for them.
I don’t encourage my students to cast away their screens—I’m
a product of sociocultural forces and a big fan of the Image
myself—but I do encourage them to become friendly with
the Word. Do that, I tell them, and you’ll discover parts
of yourself that you may never have known to exist.